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MBOX-Line: From blong at google.com Mon Jan 14 02:12:13 2013
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To: imap-protocol@u.washington.edu
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From: Brandon Long <blong@google.com>
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Date: Fri Jun 8 12:34:50 2018
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Subject: [Imap-protocol] Is there some way to detect servers which
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automatically add sent messages to the Sent mailbox?
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In-Reply-To: <29D96F78-FC57-4AF5-8177-C71638D5DEB4@apple.com>
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References: <647C20F7-BB5D-47DD-BC89-3B0D903D2900@apple.com>
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<7B9C4CD5-75ED-46F7-8AE4-C3415918E905@apple.com>
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<83A6F18656334E6CA23106F9DB1C8EC1@gmail.com>
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<E4D13318-11D2-41EF-979F-2840AF2AF9C9@apple.com>
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<1358152426.27730.105.camel@innu>
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<29D96F78-FC57-4AF5-8177-C71638D5DEB4@apple.com>
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Message-ID: <CABa8R6seWwh3emtqPnYYCrh5v7BSOjh+H5gkkLmSj6KnK5rTbQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Gmail definitely does this, though as long as your message is well formed
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when sending via msa (date and messageid headers set), the appended copy
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should just be considered a DUP, so no two copies. Unnecessary bandwidth,
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I guess.
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Nothing we do to indicate this protocol wise, but I'm open to suggestions.
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Brandon
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On Jan 14, 2013 12:38 AM, "Ian Anderson" <iana@apple.com> wrote:
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> I haven?t tested it, but I hear that FastMail, Tuffmail, Gmail, 126, and
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> 163 all do this. (Some of those may have since stopped, my data?s a bit
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> old.)
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>
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> Ian
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>
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> On Jan 14, 2013, at 12:33 AM, Timo Sirainen <tss@iki.fi> wrote:
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>
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> > I doubt you could get such DATA response a) standardized and especially
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> > b) implemented by server admins. Or are you thinking about some specific
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> > large email provider that does this? I'm not aware of any provider that
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> > does this.
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> >
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> > I think BURL is going to become much more available at least in server
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> > side within a few years.
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> >
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> > On Mon, 2013-01-14 at 00:05 -0800, Ian Anderson wrote:
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> >> Oh yeah, I didn?t think about BURL. Bleargh. Searching for the
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> >> message in the Sent mailbox after sending seems rather error prone.
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> >> What if it takes ten minutes for the message to show up
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> >> automatically? Maybe an extended SMTP status code from the DATA
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> >> command would make sense on servers that are going to do the append
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> >> for you though?
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> >>
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> >>
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> >> Ian
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> >>
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> >> On Jan 13, 2013, at 5:34 PM, Ho? V. Dinh <dinh.viet.hoa@gmail.com>
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> >> wrote:
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> >>
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> >>> Maybe you could detect the IMAP server you're dealing with and
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> >>> behaves accordingly to its behaviour.
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> >>> An other solution could be to FETCH in the Sent mailbox after the
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> >>> mail has been sent.
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> >>> And match the message based on the Message-ID, then, decide whether
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> >>> you really need to APPEND the message.
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> >>>
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> >>>
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> >>> --
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> >>> Ho? V. Dinh
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> >>
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> >>
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> >> On Jan 13, 2013, at 4:52 PM, Dave Cridland <dave@cridland.net> wrote:
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> >>
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> >>> No, there isn't, as far as I know. You can, on some systems, tell
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> >>> which is the Sent mailbox, and you could watch it for a new message,
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> >>> I suppose. I bet systems supporting special use mailboxes don't do
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> >>> the automatic append, though.
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> >>>
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> >>> On other systems, the "correct" method for sending a message is to
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> >>> first append it, and then submit by BURL.
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> >>>
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> >>> Finally, Alexey had a postaddress extension which allowed you to do
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> >>> the append by using a special address during submission.
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> >>>
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> >>> Dave.
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> >>>
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> >>
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> >>> On Sunday, January 13, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Ian Anderson wrote:
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> >>>> I suppose this might be more likely as an SMTP response code
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> >>>> (though I can?t find a defined one) than an IMAP capability or
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> >>>> some such, but maybe someone on this list knows anyway?
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> >>>> <wishful_thinking>
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> >>>>
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> >>>>
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> >>>> Ian
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> >>>>
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> >>>>
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> >>>> On Jan 13, 2013, at 4:31 PM, Ian Anderson <iana@apple.com> wrote:
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> >>>>
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> >>>>
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> >>>>> I?ve noticed that in some systems when you send a message via
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> >>>>> SMTP, it will put a copy in the user?s Sent mailbox. Most of
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> >>>>> them don?t however, necessitating that I do an IMAP APPEND to
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> >>>>> get the message in Sent. Is there a good/any way to tell when
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> >>>>> the APPEND is necessary? Right now I?m doing it all the time
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> >>>>> which is resulting in double copies in the Sent mailbox for
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> >>>>> systems that do it automatically.
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> >>>>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>>> Ian
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>
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