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MBOX-Line: From tss at iki.fi Wed May 30 17:21:22 2007
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To: imap-protocol@u.washington.edu
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From: Timo Sirainen <tss@iki.fi>
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Date: Fri Jun 8 12:34:39 2018
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Subject: [Imap-protocol] Vista Mail doesn't handle \NoSelect mailboxes?
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In-Reply-To: <alpine.OSX.0.99.0705301626140.13729@pangtzu.panda.com>
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References: <alpine.OSX.0.99.0705301048240.11683@pangtzu.panda.com>
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<20070530113546.Q27473@orthanc.ca>
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<alpine.WNT.0.99.0705301146290.5388@Shimo-Tomobiki.Panda.COM>
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<BF01B191-D34E-47DE-A4FB-EAF1CADE4715@apple.com>
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<1180563766.32181.2028.camel@hurina>
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<alpine.WNT.0.99.0705301555120.2080@Shimo-Tomobiki.Panda.COM>
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<1180567472.32181.2062.camel@hurina>
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<alpine.OSX.0.99.0705301626140.13729@pangtzu.panda.com>
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Message-ID: <108EB7FB-D05E-4AF2-A2A8-20C52D808616@iki.fi>
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On 31.5.2007, at 2.45, Mark Crispin wrote:
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> On Thu, 31 May 2007, Timo Sirainen wrote:
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>> I guess your view of how subscriptions should work differs
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>> significantly
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>> from how other people use them. I like that my subscription list is
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>> almost exactly like the full mailbox list. I've just removed a
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>> couple of
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>> mailboxes that I rarely want to look at.
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>
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> How is it useful to have a subscription list that is little (or not
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> at all) different than the full mailbox list?
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I want to see a list of my mailboxes. Unfortunately my screen space
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is limited and can't display all of them, but having some of the
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rarely used archived mailboxes removed from the list helps at least a
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bit.
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> Does your server export newsgroups? Do you think it is useful that
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> everybody's subscription list include all newsgroups by default?
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> If no, how do you reconcile that with your statement?
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No, of course not. But it's a very small percentage of people who use
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IMAP that way. I don't know anyone who reads news via IMAP. So I
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don't think it's unreasonable that mail clients' user interface would
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be designed to work more along the lines of "user has only relatively
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small number of mailboxes" instead of "user has thousands of
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mailboxes". This of course doesn't mean that clients should behave
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horribly with a large mailbox list, but it does mean that I think
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"show only subscribed mailboxes" option is a good enough user
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interface design for most users. And in such UI design CREATE
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+SUBSCRIBE combination is just fine (but not automatically
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subscribing to all mailboxes of course, that's pointless).
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>>> I am starting to think that the solution is to remove
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>>> subscriptions from IMAP entirely, and replace it with a mechanism
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>>> to stores a list of IMAP URLs.
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>> What would be their purpose then?
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>
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> The original purpose of subscriptions:
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>
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> Identifying those mailboxes which receive incoming messages.
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Why does there have to be such a list? I want to see a list of
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mailboxes I've subscribed to, regardless of whether they receive
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incoming messages.
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