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To: imap-protocol@u.washington.edu
From: Tony Finch <dot@dotat.at>
Date: Fri Jun  8 12:34:52 2018
Subject: [Imap-protocol] STARTTLS after PREAUTH
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Bron Gondwana <brong@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 19, 2014, at 08:25 AM, Michael M Slusarz wrote:
> >
> > STARTTLS deprecated the use of port 993, which isn't an official IMAP
> > port FWIW.

What do you mean by "official"? Have you seen RFC 6186?

> > It hasn't really happened, but still is good to avoid and end users
> > appreciate it when they don't have to have any knowledge of port
> > number.
>
> I can't understand how STARTTLS ever got floated as an idea.  It's
> totally insane.

Well RFC 2595 gives some reasons...

I get the impression that the UTA working group is likely to prefer
TLS-on-connect over STARTTLS.

Tony.
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