MBOX-Line: From brong at fastmail.fm  Wed Mar 21 03:15:17 2012
To: imap-protocol@u.washington.edu
From: Bron Gondwana <brong@fastmail.fm>
Date: Fri Jun  8 12:34:48 2018
Subject: [Imap-protocol] [ann] lua imap server
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On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 09:06:08PM -0400, Barry Leiba wrote:
> > As I see it, IMAP seems to imply a frozen set of messages, until either an EXISTS or
> > EXPUNGE is observed. In my case, as timing is not critical, NOOP is the place where that
> > observation happens as this seems to be the less troublesome spot to do so.
> 
> IMAP implies no such thing at all.
> That most clients send a lot of NOOP commands basically speaks to most
> clients being inefficient users of IMAP.  With a well written client
> and an active user, you might never see NOOPs, and it's seriously
> broken server behaviour to only update the message list when you see a
> NOOP.

My other hobby (apart from participating in flame wars on IMAP lists) is
teaching group fitness classes.  So I'm up the front with a microphone on,
telling people what to do with voice and body movements, and they are
trying to follow and make the right movements so they don't run in to
each other.

And we instructors have a saying... if one person in your class makes a
mistake, it might be their fault - but if a lot of them get it wrong then
IT IS YOUR FAULT.  You didn't cue properly.  Fix it next time you teach
that track.

Lots of clients get IMAP wrong...

Bron ( fill in the blanks )

