MBOX-Line: From dave at cridland.net  Sun Mar 25 04:37:32 2012
To: imap-protocol@u.washington.edu
From: Dave Cridland <dave@cridland.net>
Date: Fri Jun  8 12:34:48 2018
Subject: [Imap-protocol] IDLE + inbox file
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On Sat Mar 24 22:23:21 2012, Bron Gondwana wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 09:40:46PM +0000, Dave Cridland wrote:
> > On Sat Mar 24 21:32:43 2012, Timo Sirainen wrote:
> > >Can client developers really do it much better? I guess desktop
> > >vs. mobile developers can do things differently if they wanted,
> > >but is it any more realistic for them than for server developers?
> > >
> > >
> > Yes.
> >
> > Mobile developers tend to know they're on a mobile.
> 
> Your theory fails to account for cheap shitty NAT devices which  
> think
> the entire world is HTTP and silently drop the connection after a
> couple of minutes, without even so much as an RST, leaving innocent
> desktop clients with a broken connection and no indication to the  
> user
> that they are no longer getting updates.

No, I do know such things exist, but they're increasingly rare in the  
mobile world, and I strongly suspect they're better dealt with by the  
client even in the crappy home router case.

Dave.
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