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From: John Snow <snowjn@aol.com>
Date: Fri Jun  8 12:34:45 2018
Subject: [Imap-protocol] Fwd: iOS IMAP IDLE (Standard "Push Email")
	Deficiency, Explanation?
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Mark Crispin wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Oct 2010, John Snow wrote:
>>> There is no reason for any desktop client to use IDLE, and negligible
>>> reason for a laptop client to do so.
>> I'm surprised to hear you say that.  IDLE gives me instant 
>> notification of
>> new mail. Anything else relies on the client to poll periodically.  
>> That's
>> definitely less than instant.   Is there a better way?
>
> That assumes that the IMAP server notifies instantly, instead of polling
> internally at a fixed interval.  This, in turn, assumes some form of
> message passing between the MDA and the IMAP server.
That's true.  I took that as am implied requirement for implementing IDLE.
>
> I find it remarkable that anyone can get bent out of shape because it may
> take as much as a minute or two to be notified about a newly arrived
> email; particularly as it may have taken some ungodly amount of time for
> the message to have travelled from the senders MSA and the recipient's
> MDA.
>
We live in a world full of impatient people.

> We have a perfectly good facility called instant messaging for real-time
> communication.
>
Or a phone, where this discussion started.
> -- Mark --
>
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